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2019-10-22
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Sale Number 1209, Lot Number 1147, 1869 Pictorial Issue (Scott 112-122)30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var), 30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var)30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var). Top sheet-margin block of eight with "NATIONAL BANK NOTE CO. NEW YORK" imprint in Ultramarine, deep rich colors characteristic of this printing without grill on double paper (which is evident along the top edge of sheet selvage), unused (no gum), neat hinge reinforcements, natural pre-printing paper creases visible when held to light, centered to top right

ONE OF TWO RECORDED TOP SHEET-MARGIN BLOCKS OF THE 30-CENT 1869 PICTORIAL WITHOUT GRILL ON DOUBLE PAPER (SCOTT 121 VARIETY), PRINTED FROM A FLAGS PLATE (ULTRAMARINE COLOR) THAT WAS MISSING THE PLATE NUMBER "21" AT TOP.

The 30c 1869 Pictorial Issue was printed from separate plates: the Eagle and Shield plate with imprint at bottom (in Carmine), and the Draped Flags plate with imprint at top (in Ultramarine). The 30c 1869 Double Paper/Without Grill variety exists in top and bottom imprint multiples, which show that the Flags plate did not have a plate number at one point (as evident in this block); however, plate proofs exist with the "No. 21" present, so it is possible that issued stamps exist with the plate number at top in Ultramarine. No top-margin examples of the normal 30c 1869 are known, with or without imprint or plate number. Therefore, it is impossible to say with certainty that the regular 30c stamps were printed from a Flags plate with plate numbers or without.

This block, three other sheet-margin blocks and a number of singles and interior blocks originate from a large multiple spanning the right and left panes, which is printed on experimental double paper without grill. The 30c 1869 Without Grill/Double Paper block was described by John N. Luff in his book, but over the years, stamps from this multiple have been offered and certified as the Scott 121a on ordinary single-layer paper (without grill). The ex-Zoellner left-pane plate number block of six was originally joined with the ex-Ishikawa block of fifteen from the adjacent right pane. They are both the Without Grill/Double Paper variety. Those two bottom sheet-margin multiples and the Scott 121 multiple in Sale 1118 lot 98 are the only extant 30c 1869 Pictorial blocks, other than proof impressions, that show the imprint and plate number 21. The two top sheet-margin multiples, including the block offered here, come from the same Without Grill/Double Paper sheet (left and right panes), proving that this experimental printing was made from a Flags plate lacking the plate number. See Chronicle 217 for an article by Scott R. Trepel on this subject.

With 2003 P.F. certificate identifying this as "Scott 121E, Essay on Double Paper" before there was a Scott listing for this variety (now listed under Scott 121). Ex Walske, "Lake Shore" and Price. Scott Retail for eight original gum singles $56,000.00

E. 7,500-10,000
12,000
United States
U.S. Stamps
19th Century Issues
1869 Pictorial Issue
2018-06-27
2018 Rarities of the World
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Sale Number 1185, Lot Number 58, 1869 Pictorial Issue and Re-Issue30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var), 30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var)30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var). Top sheet-margin block of eight with "NATIONAL BANK NOTE CO. NEW YORK" imprint in Ultramarine, deep rich colors characteristic of this printing without grill on double paper (which is evident along the top edge of sheet selvage), neat hinge reinforcements, natural pre-printing paper creases visible when held to light, centered to top right

ONE OF TWO RECORDED TOP SHEET-MARGIN BLOCKS OF THE 30-CENT 1869 PICTORIAL WITHOUT GRILL ON DOUBLE PAPER (SCOTT 121 VARIETY), PRINTED FROM A FLAGS PLATE (ULTRAMARINE COLOR) THAT WAS MISSING THE PLATE NUMBER "21" AT TOP.

The 30c 1869 Pictorial Issue was printed from separate plates: the Eagle and Shield plate with imprint at bottom (in Carmine), and the Draped Flags plate with imprint at top (in Ultramarine). The 30c 1869 Double Paper/Without Grill variety exists in top and bottom imprint multiples, which show that the Flags plate did not have a plate number at one point (as evident in this block); however, plate proofs exist with the "No. 21" present, so it is possible that issued stamps exist with the plate number at top in Ultramarine. No top-margin examples of the normal 30c 1869 are known, with or without imprint or plate number. Therefore, it is impossible to say with certainty that the regular 30c stamps were printed from a Flags plate with plate numbers or without.

This block, three other sheet-margin blocks and a number of singles and interior blocks originate from a large multiple spanning the right and left panes, which is printed on experimental double paper without grill. The 30c 1869 Without Grill/Double Paper block was described by John N. Luff in his book, but over the years, stamps from this multiple have been offered and certified as the Scott 121a on ordinary single-layer paper (without grill). The ex-Zoellner left-pane plate number block of six was originally joined with the ex-Ishikawa block of fifteen from the adjacent right pane. They are both the Without Grill/Double Paper variety. Those two bottom sheet-margin multiples and the Scott 121 multiple in Sale 1118 lot 98 are the only extant 30c 1869 Pictorial blocks, other than proof impressions, that show the imprint and plate number 21. The two top sheet-margin multiples, including the block offered here, come from the same Without Grill/Double Paper sheet (left and right panes), proving that this experimental printing was made from a Flags plate lacking the plate number. See Chronicle 217 for an article by Scott R. Trepel on this subject.

With 2003 P.F. certificate identifying this as "Scott 121E, Essay on Double Paper" before there was a Scott listing for this variety (now listed under Scott 121). Ex Walske, "Lake Shore" and Price. Scott value for eight singles $56,000.00

E. 7,500-10,000
10,000
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U.S. Stamps
19th Century Issues
1869 Pictorial Issue
2016-03-15
The Don David Price Iconic Collection of U.S. Bicolored Issues
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Sale Number 1118, Lot Number 110, 30c 1869 Pictorial Issue Grill Varieties (Scott 121)30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var), 30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var)30c Ultramarine & Carmine, Double Paper, Without Grill (121 var). Top sheet-margin block of eight with "NATIONAL BANK NOTE CO. NEW YORK" imprint in Ultramarine, deep rich colors characteristic of this printing without grill on double paper (which is evident along the top edge of sheet selvage), neat hinge reinforcements, natural pre-printing paper creases visible when held to light, centered to top right

ONE OF TWO RECORDED TOP SHEET-MARGIN BLOCKS OF THE 30-CENT 1869 PICTORIAL WITHOUT GRILL ON DOUBLE PAPER (SCOTT 121 VARIETY), PRINTED FROM A FLAGS PLATE (ULTRAMARINE COLOR) THAT WAS MISSING THE PLATE NUMBER "21" AT TOP.

The 30c 1869 Pictorial Issue was printed from separate plates: the Eagle and Shield plate with imprint at bottom (in Carmine), and the Draped Flags plate with imprint at top (in Ultramarine). The 30c 1869 Double Paper/Without Grill variety exists in top and bottom imprint multiples, which show that the Flags plate did not have a plate number at one point (as evident in this block); however, plate proofs exist with the "No. 21" present, so it is possible that issued stamps exist with the plate number at top in Ultramarine. No top-margin examples of the normal 30c 1869 are known, with or without imprint or plate number. Therefore, it is impossible to say with certainty that the regular 30c stamps were printed from a Flags plate with plate numbers or without.

This block, three other sheet-margin blocks and a number of singles and interior blocks originate from a large multiple spanning the right and left panes, which is printed on experimental double paper without grill. The 30c 1869 Without Grill/Double Paper block was described by John N. Luff in his book, but over the years, stamps from this multiple have been offered and certified as the Scott 121a on ordinary single-layer paper (without grill). The ex-Zoellner left-pane plate number block of six was originally joined with the ex-Ishikawa block of fifteen from the adjacent right pane. They are both the Without Grill/Double Paper variety. Those two bottom sheet-margin multiples and the Scott 121 multiple in lot 98 are the only extant 30c 1869 Pictorial blocks, other than proof impressions, that show the imprint and plate number 21. The two top sheet-margin multiples, including the block offered here, come from the same Without Grill/Double Paper sheet (left and right panes), proving that this experimental printing was made from a Flags plate lacking the plate number. See Chronicle 217 for an article by Scott R. Trepel on this subject.

With 2003 P.F. certificate identifying this as "Scott 121E, Essay on Double Paper" before there was a Scott listing for this variety (now listed under Scott 121). Ex "Lafayette" and "Lake Shore". Scott value for eight singles $60,000.00

E. 15,000-20,000
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